As far as the OCD I dont believe she had it. 2. Nick Van Der Leek is the owner of this site and you are invited to comment, which is a privilege and we should be grateful. Those were my kids. He claimed he saw Shanann on top of Cece and that they were blue. He said he lost it and choked Shanann. If youre not OCD, it doesnt mean Shanann wasnt. I believe she was probably sleeping when he smothered her. Because she was submerged in oil for four days. Regarding oil in the stomach, just a thought, but wasnt Bella face up and CeCe face down when removed from the tanks? 3. Bella fought back, according to the prosecutor, Denver Channel reported. Maintaining compression in a Stranglehold after unconsciousness is rendered may result in death. Shanann was in there with her on top of her. That sounds very very snarky. Which she combed over the menu trying to come up with that amount for one person. Autopsy reports for Bella and Celeste say that the necks of the children were swabbed even though they were in a container of oil, water, and associated sludge matter. I expect they also make youtube channels of women doing things wrong to say why they hate women, even if men usually do more of those things, If he killed her downstairs how would there have been no movement on main floor shortly after she got home. The reports had been sealed until the outcome of the trial. Perhaps they had one via phone or text. Ive linked an article below for everyone to read about how harmful perpetuating this lie is. Do you think youre asking for reasonable evidence that would be commonplace and easy to produce? Cuz if shed already died she would have not been engaged in the act of strangling her like he said. 3. This would also suggest that the Stranglehold was done with a right arm, as this would correlate to the right-sided internal bruising, and the left-sided external bruising. And dropped her in alive? Thanks for making the reports public. And the life insurance policies out on the 3 girls, not sure Nico yet, was not very much at all. of OCD triggers and symptoms. No. If the oil got into her stomach by being submerged in the tank then shouldnt CeCe have oil in her system too. And even if he did not kill them twice so to speak, he killed the on in front of the other with no thoughts to their fear levels or anything but yet you put all the blame on another of the victims. I am 57, I weigh 132 lbs.. .,,, I had my husband straddle my chest and pin my arms down and Im telling you right now, I could not move. Even if he raged and killed Shannon because she killed her girls, I would much rather be guilty for killing Shannon because she killed my babies then be a monster guilty of killing my daughters so I would have called for help so the cops could do their job and get the evidence to back up my story. Chris Watts advised that blankets and stuffed animals were left by the sheet which was near Shananns grave. Thats why no defense wounds. I took a lot of interest in the K9 footage as I had a SAR Shore Rescue dog for 13 years (best nose in Cornwall). The autopsy also made no references to elevated levels of any Thrive-related chemicals. If thats the case I cant figure where else they would have been at that time. No, so you have same information that anyone else has. Even with Bella, no screaming brain said , this is your Bella!! Or it might be that a place for everything and everything in its place is a good way for me to manage time being able to grab what I need when I need it without having to faff around looking for it. Nick, have any of her docs said she had clinical OCD? no she was a good mom who looked after her kids! Bella Watts Autospy Report Rude person. The girls were just in their pajamas; they werent wrapped in blankets. Netflix viewers believe a murdered wife sent police a clue from beyond the grave after spotting something "creepy" in the doco about her brutal murder at the hands of her cheating husband. D Oil, water and sludge debris in the stomach Inhaling ethanol fumes would make them all instant drunk and completely defenseless. but I dont think she ever went upstairs, not even to check on the girls. I actually tried this with my husband. Seemed to me like she kept everything clean that you could see. Unless you count her phone. Jami, doesnt make sense. Chris worked at a petroleum manufacturing company. He is a monster. Straight up facts. https://www.ftc.gov/sites/default/files/documents/public_comments/trade-regulation-rule-disclosure-requirements-and-prohibitions-concerning-business-opportunities-ftc.r511993-00010%C2%A0/00010-57283.pdf. She was an environmental science person. Please explain. Here is what the International OCD Foundation says. He had only a few friends. Googled ways to suffocate children? I think he may have snapped and killed Bella first. The LeVel MLM was a huge contributing factor in this familys financial collapse. Dont jump on me buthear me bnb ot, I believe Chris. He is very thorough, very professional, analyses and peels back all the layers. It's difficult to speculate what the norm would be in a criminal case, especially where an autopsy would need to be performed on both the mother . I believe the frenulum injury could be explained from the process of stuffing her head through the thief hatch post mortem it was a tight squeeze with the larger child. I dont think I know everything, but I do know more about this case than most. I think he would have come up with a better plan as to where he would bury them. We know that she went to her office and attempted to order haircare products, and in the welfare check footage you can clearly see a large dark blanket on the sofa, and two small pink chair beds by the side of the sofa. D: Oil, water and sludge debris was found in her stomach. 1. I also have seen that neighbors vid of the loading of truck & see a female in video helping him load up , and even a small luve figure of a child. The reports show that the bodies of both little girls were placed inside oil containers with a narrow opening that was only 8 inches in diameter. The autopsy report found that Shanann was in her second trimester of pregnancy and that the "largely decomposed fetus and placental unit" was found "expelled from the gravid uterus." Also, I highly doubt Shanann was killed by pulling her down onto her back. He didnt attempt to revive the children or call for help. ( oh & yes there were handprints in both sides of her neck according to autopsy ) on his arms? That got me too it sounded more like Shanann was trying to do CPR if she was already blue! Take Jodi Arias she lured him into a shower and made sure she was armed and he was naked, vulnerable and unsuspecting when she attacked him. Quick as law enforcement were to respond to the crime, by the time they recovered the remains of the two little girls, they had been chemical altered beyond recognition. Chris said that she often went straight to bed without showering after a flight, saying that shed shower and wash bedding to rid it of the airport in the morning. I mean, nothing can be done of course, it is done and is over of course, I am stating the very obvious. If CW is the type of father that would never hurt his girls, then his behavior after pulling Shannan off CeCe would be to call 911, try CPR ( he had classes at work) When non murderous parents are confronted with the loss or potential loss of their children they get desperate. Autopsy shows oil, water, and sludge in their lungs, which cannot happen when you are dead. Stomach: The stomach contains approximately 75mls of viscous green-black fluid which is suggestive of oil and particulate matter from the oil tank which she was in. Remember, she was pregnant. Cause if it was the way CW said she would have fought back. No, ONE fully-formed, perfect adult and TWO fully-formed, perfect BABIES. The next morning, visible fingerprints (the circular marks on Shaanns autopsy), so visible that others took notice. So that indicates perhaps that she and Bella were murdered around the same time as Shanann Im guessing. Thankfully that psych warned me I should take the children somewhere to be safe. Lack of petechiae. Celestes was similar. Could Bellas mouth injuries have occurred postmortem when he shoved her through the hatch? x, Ive said this before. This sick bastard should have done everyone a favor and took his own life. Mechanical compression with blood vessels in the neck (as in a Stranglehold) causes a reduction in oxygenation of the brain, leading to cerebral hypoxia/ischaemia, anaerobic metabolism, and acidaemia/acidosis (similar to the effects of cardiac arrest on the brain (Longstreth 2001). 100% yes again), @Kim cadaver dogs dont just detect bodies they scent death, trauma sites, bodily fluids relating to death, and sites where arguments have taken place (they scent the adrenaline-type hormones released Typo. That goes against every human primal instinct we have, it just wouldnt happen. In the majority of cases of asphyxiation, petechiae are formed, and Shanann exhibited none. Is there any way you can send it to my email please. I have a question. She left him a note the morning she left for Arizona and it was very loving & positive. If the digestive tract opens up at death, where did Shannan, Bella and Celeste poop? I cannot get over what he did. Shan'ann seemed to have a fairly mild case. Will we ever know the order in which they were killed? Thoughts? Once Shanann got in bed and settled to sleep, he then got on her and, like a snake, squeezed the life out of his prey. This is from the transcript of the Larry King Live show covering Scott Petersons conviction in the death of his pregnant wife Lacey thats Dr. Henry Lee, a forensic scientist: KING: If there were smothering, would there have been evidence? Ella no tomaba ni la basura tampoco, lo dijo la nana de las bebs. My husband is 62, weighs 190 lb. And I doubt this person is a doctor who can just diagnose ppl he doesnt know either. I believe the DA said there was no evidence of fibers related to the smothering of Bella and Celeste. Not everyone poops when they die, in fact most do not. Mark your theory makes a lot of sense. Little Celeste, thankfully, seemed to have no idea what was happening to her. Im a survivor. DENVER (CBS4) The district attorney in Weld County says the autopsy reports are complete for Shanann Watts and her two young daughters found dead at . It just seems to me that Bella would actually have had to swallow the oil to get it into her stomach. The body is that of a well-developed, well-nourished Caucasian female whose appearance is generally consistent with the And his mistress tells him she wants to be the one to have his first boy prior to the murders and surprise after finding out she is having a boy , she is now dead. Even flailing my legs they werent even reaching him. I go back & forth wondering if he planned on killing the kids, or if Bella saw & then he had too. Taking it off makes the breasts throb & feel more painful. Some people believe his story that Shannan killed the kids like he said. I consider it strange to have them there (in preschool) FT at their age, given the business she was inseems like it could have been done around an at home schedule for the girls, IMO.. He has proven to be a pathalogical liar and nothing he has said before or after his conviction can be proven as truth. For more information on having conversations at this site: https://crimerocket.com/2018/12/21/true-crime-rocket-science-how-to-have-conversations-on-this-site-and-how-not-to/. He doesnt have a soul!!!!! The police reports contain a conversation Chris had with his father. Everything else was secondary or something to be minimized so she could focus on her addiction. Shanann was discovered in a "foetal position" in a shallow grave, while her two young daughters were found in "crude oil sludge". He also said he didnt know where they were and he thought they were coming back. Im wondering if he had bipolar. I tend to have the feeling ; with the way the justice system and penalties are enforced in the US .that he is probably in solitary confinement for his own protection!! Not a chance she would have run the risk of waking up the children by going into their rooms she knew theyd be fine as shed often said Chris was a good Dad. Im just saying if her friend had never come over. I am doing a project for school and i would like to have a look at them. Ive been on those late flight arrivals often. Esophagus: .. Just a suggestion. Or putting her down. He may have sprung himself on her in the bathroom, came in after her and turned the light off or something, being an easier/tiled place to clean up any traces? Under anaerobic conditions (absence of free oxygen) acids such as lactic acid, acetic acid and butyric acid are produced during decomposition, as well as a number of alcohols which include butyl alcohol, ethyl alcohol and acetone. The DA mentioned that. I slept in my bras with all four of my pregnancies. Theres a very clear indicator when the children died. She was organized but that is not OCD, same as me. 19th Judicial District Attorney Michael Rourke said that Watts totally and deliberately ended four lives, smothering the girls. Exhausting and she was pregnant. A persons muscles relax upon death, including the sphincter. Notice she was undressed when found. What are the odds???? For example, someone with OCD could have the thought that if they dont touch a doorknob a certain number of times an exact way, they will get a disease. I am not sure that he planned the murders. But from Molletts work, it seems the alcohol levels in Shananns body were normal. Since its clear CW is a flagrant coward, I am finding it hard to imagine him having enough courage to have looked at her eye to eye while he was strangling her. I really think that the pregnancy started the whole thing. I am shocked shes not been charged too. 1. What is going on?? Jeremy Lindstromwondered if Shananns OCD and honey-do lists had gotten to Chris. Anyway, either you get it, or you dont. Remember Nickols son found her cell phone in-between the cushions of the upstairs couch. What was Shananns cause of death? Bellas covers were pulled off and she was just lying in bed. No one deserves what happened to those kids and their mother-you have issues. He said he didnt hurt Shannan just as much, Ive read all the transcripts. He cared more about his 2 month relationship with that home wrecker then the 6 years he spent with his wife and the lives of his children. Because he said hed never hurt his girls? Similarly, the anxiety caused by these obsessions can be lessened by different compulsions, such as checking (e.g., re-checking door locks, repeatedly making sure the oven is off), repeating (e.g., doing the same action or ritual over and over to be sure it was done correctly), and counting (e.g., doing things in certain numbers, counting items to certain numbers). But I want to know so badly the time of death. Dont forget, she is pregnant. That is simply a common misconception/stereotype that is very harmful and untrue. Both my kids were blue and they were gone. How dare you blame the victim? A monster! Did she even go upstairs to sleep? They said they found paper bags around both her hands. Not Shanann! No, I dont believe she was drinking at all, considering she was pregnant. I also believe in my heart that Shannan did not hurt her babies 75 mls is about 5 tablespoons or a third of a standard cup. 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