In the 60s, it has to be Ann-Margret, who really was the love of his life. RF 2GE51JG - Beverly Hills, California, USA 15th August 2021 A general view of atmosphere of Actress Shirley Jones, comedian Marty Ingels, Ryan Cassidy, Shaun Cassidy, Ann Pennington former home/house at 701 N. Oakhurst Drive on August 15, 2021 in Beverly Hills, California, USA. It will be fun 3-hour cruise up the Mississippi River, with lots of Elvis music, drinks and snacks. Just one month after his marriage to Priscilla, Elvis sent Ann-Margret a guitar made of flowers in celebration of her Las Vegas debut. Piper Laurie Actress87. June Juanico serious early girlfriend.15. AN: I think Sheila Ryan was extremely important to him. Ann-Margret was surprisingly calm around her larger-than-life costar, later writing, Im not really sure why I was so calm about meeting the King. After all, this was Elvis a man who had captured the heart of almost every woman in America. Elvis Information Network Highlight from the Interview by Sanja Meegin. (I might also add that a lot of these big-name performers that we so admire arent always the most secure people in their private lives.) Dixie Locke Elvis Memphis sweetheart09. Agent, Bureau of Narcotics & Dangerous Drugs. Mindi Miller with Ed Enoch, Al Strada and Tom Morgan Elvis Funeral. Advertisement. A few years before her death, she was asked what had been the greatest reward from her years of stardom, and her reply was "in living, honey". She also was noted as an accomplished tap dancer. She even had Turas piled-high hair. I think the closeness was almost always more important to him than the sex, once he got out of his hormonal stages as a youth. You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post. Sue Anderson Germany51. Regis had a crush on Elvis, who she considered "a gentle soul, but all boy - he kind of had this swagger to him." She was too tied to her own mother, and she was the baby at home, and that was her role. He did not date 65. Her key dances in Gold Diggers on Broadway (1929) remain lost. by elvisjock Wed Jan 07, 2015 5:19 am, Post In the early/mid-50s, June Juanico was perfect for him. Do you understand me?". Her dressing room door bore a sign, "For Men Only.". I remember the mention of Ann in one of the old books - Elvis We Love You Tender, IIRC. She played the little girl in Speedway. But she also said that one day he would settle down. Ida Ritter: I have again to congratulate Alana Nash for the writing of another superb book that I already ordered and that I cannot wait to read. Tuesday Weld Co-star romance88. Diane Goodman Miss Georgia, 197279. the day Elvis died..an important revelation. Vicky Meyerlink (did you mean Victoria Paige Meyerink) during Clambake or any other time. Co-stars Owen Moore (who was married to, Ann Pennington as a reform school parolee working as a stenographer in a shoe store. After a few years, the former couple welcomed John's baby sister, Caitlin Ann Cassidy, in 1985. This article is about the stage actress. This Washington (state) biographical article is a stub. In this film she performs a Hula dance. Gladys adored her, and June had a lot of wonderful wifely qualities. I was surprised at how truly tiny she is. All four women were pivotal in Elvis life. Ann Pennington. Dolores Hart Loving You / King Creole40. LAURA Vittadini 1k followers More information Selected back issues of FREE online newsletter, Alanna was interviewed by EIN's Nigel Patterson (December 2009), Read EIN's review of Baby, Let's Play House Elvis Presley and the Women Who Loved Him. Tammy Young High School08. The booklet was originally sold as a 'program' during 'The King's Ransom World Tour'. Because of her diminutive stature, she was referred to as "Penny" by her friends and colleagues. Patty Philpot Memphis, mid 1950s10. Alanna was the winner of the 2004 CMA Media Achievement Award and the 2009 Charlie Lamb Award for Excellence in Country Music Journalism, she has written about music for such publications as Vanity Fair, People, USA Weekend, TV Guide, Playboy, Entertainment Weekly, Ladies Home Journal, The New York Times, and Reader's Digest, where she was a contributing editor from 2004-2008. And thats the Elvis that I met not dressed in a way that he would have been even going out for dinner or to the movies or something like that no jeans, no T-shirt, no sweater, not one of his big blouse shirts or anything like that- just very normal, very average. With her long, red hair and great legs she quickly . In the 1926 edition of George White's Scandals, Pennington introduced the African American-influenced Black Bottom dance to America at large with her partner, the eccentric dancer Tom Patricola. Create a free website or blog at WordPress.com. With dimpled knees and long dark red hair, the petite, pretty, charming, and often scantly-clad Pennington stood a mere 4' 10" tall and wore only a size 1 shoe. She has such heart, and was really fun-loving, and he could blow off steam with her. June Wilbank 195837. I could hardly blame her, though. She was portrayed by actress Michelle Nicastro in the "Scandals of 1920" episode of The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles, which dramatizes her role as the star of George White's Scandals of 1920. Ann-Margret explained, Our relationship was very strong and very serious and very real. She was wild about him, but she had listened to her fathers advice and pretty much gave him the cold shoulder. AN: I dont think it was a serious romance at all. Sheila Ryan Dated Elvis In 197486. If an internal link led you here, you may . Welcome To The FECC Forum - More than 100 Million Visitors Can't Be Wrong!!! Included are numerous rare photos of Elvis on and off-stage. And he says, "The minute Elvis walks in the door," he says, "Ann, I want you to stand up and swoon, and I'll go over here and open the door to the anteroom and the press will see you fainting at his presence." And I said, I looked at my father and my father was saying, "Mmm, I don't think so." by brian Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:26 am, Post He cared about her a lot. 102 Ann Pennington Photos and Premium High Res Pictures - Getty Images Images Creative Editorial Video Creative Editorial FILTERS CREATIVE EDITORIAL VIDEO 102 Ann Pennington Premium High Res Photos Browse 102 ann pennington stock photos and images available, or start a new search to explore more stock photos and images. (Photo Credit: Bettmann/ Getty Images). by YDKM Wed Jan 07, 2015 5:39 am, Post Elvis pinned Priscilla down and asked: I didnt know this was going to get out of hand. But other than Ann-Margret, who has certainly stayed with an ill husband all these years, I cant think of anyone who would have stuck with Elvis 24 hours a day like Linda did through his hospitalisations and his many close calls and his cheating. She seems a very successful woman in life./ interestingly she got re-married only a short while after her 1993 divorce came through and is still married with quite a few children from her 2nd marriage as well as her first-plenty of kids now all grown up too.!~. Carolyn Bradshaw Hayride Folk singer14. Barbara Bonner Dated In the 1960s68. Barbara Leigh 197073. Resides in Hilton Head Island, SC. Elvis and Priscilla Presley on their wedding day, May 1, 1967. 1 Comment But as I mentioned, Susan Henning, Barbara Leigh, and Ann Pennington each had a child, and these were all sexual relationships. Ann Pennington was born in Wilmington, Delaware. Learn how your comment data is processed. Mindi Miller model 1975-7680. Marilyn Evans Las Vegas showgirl17. He would watch The Student Prince which was set in Heidelberg, over and over again. I enjoyed Elvis and the Memphis Mafia a great deal and Baby, Let's Play House seems as it will be the "other bookend" as you put it. She took dancing lessons from ballerina Catherine Littlefield. "Don't tell me to play it. At the time, Elvis Presley was in a long-term relationship with his then-girlfriend, Priscilla. Nancy Sharp Flaming Star assistant58. by drjohncarpenter Wed Jan 07, 2015 6:03 am, Post Carol Ballard In Tupelo, Elvis was nine02. Jackie Rowland, who was in her early teens when she met Elvis during this period, talks in the book about how Gladys sat her down and explained that Elvis had his travelling girls, as she called them, and that Elvis had not yet sewed his wild oats. However, others have said that he liked everything that led up to the act more than intercourse itself. Mindi Miller was invited to a part at Elvis Monovale House in Bel Air, in March 1975 they dated on and off over the period of 1975 and 1976. Already with three critically acclaimed books about Elvis published and her fourth to be released next month, Alanna's name is one of the most recognisable in the increasingly crowded library of Elvis authors. Audrey Manasterski: I thought the interview very well done, the questions were pertinent and forthcoming. Its completely unexplainable and I felt this energy and I turned to my right and I looked and there standing in the doorway was Elvis. Pennington is the sister of fellow model Janice Pennington, and like Janice, appeared as a model on game shows. I eventually came to the conclusion that Elvis was more turned off or frightened by the idea of having relations with a woman who had born his child, not just a child. Nerida Langdon: ALANNAS NEW BOOK SOUNDS GOOD. Magdelen Morgan In Tupelo04. \And I remember when I was writing the book with Billy Smith, Marty Lacker, and Lamar Fike, that Lamar also downplayed Joyces importance in Elviss life. What a treasure that woman is, Ill tell you. The pair lost contact with one another. EIN: Baby, Lets Play House also details how Elvis put women into one of two categories. The original edition is called Elvis Aaron Presley: Revelations from the Memphis Mafia, but when the new edition came out, I argued for simply Elvis and the Memphis Mafia, which is what we wanted to call it to start with, and got overruled at the publishing house. Within two years of marriage, the ex-pair welcomed their first child, Caitlin, in 1981. Rita Moreno actress 195730. Copyright the Elvis Information Network. And they were all looking at him. [1] She also appeared in commercials and for photos illustrating stories in Cosmopolitan magazine. He thought she could have a career as a model, and he wanted to see her grow up with a chance for that. It comforted him. She last appeared on stage in a benefit show for the armed forces in 1946. They have either been banned or requested their account to be closed. [1] She also studied with Caroline Littlefield, mother of ballerina/choreographer Catherine Littlefield, in Philadelphia. In the late 50s, Anita Wood was awfully good for him. She learned to dance with the Professor Wroe dance school, and her first performances in New York were as part of "Wroe's Buds". He was not easy to be around much of the time in his last year. What are the essential elements of the disorder and how did those interviewed confirm the Whitmer theory? I can see why they would say that. His first marriage with the actress cum model, Ann Pennington, lasted for over a decade from 1979 to 1993. After her years on stage and screen ended, Pennington toured in vaudeville. AN: He changed so much from era to era that I think you have to look at it that way. Unexpectedly, Nancy Sinatra decided to throw Priscilla a baby shower likely as a show of good intentions to help repair the damage the tabloid rumors had caused. A woman can be humiliated just so many times. I can find no Vicky Meyerink at all. Leave your condolences to the family on this memorial page or send flowers to show you care. I dont think so. No, that relationship with Joyce went on for awhile. You Don't Know Me! Did anyone else mention this theme and has any of your earlier research on Elvis pointed to this issue? Keep up the good work! Sharon Wiley mid 1950s13. He was, and is supreme", "I wasn't just a fan, I was his brotherthere'll never be another like that soul brother", "There were rock 'n' roll records before Heartbreak Hotel, but this was the one that didn't just open the doorit literally blasted the door off its rusted, rotten, anachronistic hinges. She didnt want to be his child or his mothershe wanted to be his wife, and she wanted a normal mate, which he could never be in a million years. Ann would become Playboy magazine's 'Playmate of the Month' in March 1976. ", "If you're an Elvis fan, no explanation is necessary; If you're not an Elvis fan, no explanation is possible. Baby, Let's Play House Elvis Presley and the Women Who Loved Him can be ordered from Amazon: . Introduction: Alanna Nash needs no introduction to Elvis fans! After reading your review and her interview I'm glad I waited to make up my mind on whether to buy it or not. A couple of women that I interviewed indicated that it was more important for him to please his partner than for him to receive that much enjoyment himself. He was one of a kind", "It isn't enough to say that Elvis is kind to his parents, sends money home, and is the same unspoiled kid he was before all the commotion began. Subscribe to EIN's FREE online newsletter, Go HERE for Part 3 of Alanna's fascinating interview. He had very mixed reactions to that newsPriscilla intimates in her book that Elvis said he would support her if she wanted to abortand a flirtation was a natural reaction for a man as immature as Elvis. As time went on, he dated a number of taller women, including Linda Thompson, who was certainly important to him, and Mindi Miller. Swedish-born Ann-Margret grew up in a remote town full of lumberjacks and farmers high up near the Arctic Circle. Known for her sultry and soulful singing voice and swinging dance style, she was initially billed as the female Elvis. Soon after her vocal career took off, Ann-Margret began landing starring roles in classic films like Bye Bye Birdie and of course, Viva Las Vegas. His heart was very shy, and sex when we were growing up was not a good word.. Ann Pennington was born on June 3, 1950 in Seattle, Washington, USA. She was a mother. Dr. Nick: Medically Irresponsible or Misunderstood? And he probably would have done just that. I just want to tell you how much I appreciate that. It is a visually stimulating and narratively enlightening offering. They were simply acquaintances. I dont think she was mature enough to know what that was, and I doubt that the wedding would have ever taken place. Wanda Jackson Decca recording artist16. Following Elvis death in 1977, Ann-Margret went against recommendations to avoid the funeral and attended to show her support to his family. Elisabeth Edwards is a public historian and history content writer. In the second part of her absorbing interview with EIN, among other things Alanna talks about: read Part 1 of Alanna's revealing interview. Show me a lovelier, more sincere, down-to-earth woman in the universe, and Ill eat that whole book, cover to cover. She used to see him playing football in the Triangle, the grassy open field at the complex. She joined the Ziegfeld Follies in 1913. With women, Elvis talked about him as a spiritual force, someone with whom he was still connected, felt in his daily life, and would see again in the great beyond. Also, its sort of funny, but Joyce got in touch with Joe to check me out before she agreed to speak with me. Ann would become Playboy magazine's 'Playmate of the Month' in March 1976. We never spoke after that, and then I went to his funeral in August 1977 for those three days. She is an actress, known for The Winds of Autumn (1976), Long Time Gone (1986) and Card Sharks (1978). Vegas and Elvis; and her children, Carrie Key (Eddie), Gregory Pennington (Margaret), Teddy Jimison and David Kelly (Stephanie). Barbara Pittman recorded at Sun Records12. Patti Parry Memphis Mafia member52. But I have a lot of sympathy for her, even as I also understand how hurt Elvis was that she left. Eventually, Priscilla warmed up to Nancy, and as she got to know her she realized the rumors were far from true. [2][3][4] They had two children together, and divorced in 1993.[5]. She was a stand-in both for Gladys and for Jessie. Ann Pennington as a hoydenish young lady trying to crash society. While Ann-Margret never spoke publicly about her relationship with Elvis, it was clear they both cared for each other. On the plane, he got the idea to write the letter to Nixon. Mindi Miller and Elvis bonded over their common interests and soon afterwards he asked her to go on tour with him in April 1975. She was previously married to Peter Andrew Brinkman, Shaun Cassidy and Stephan H Wilson. Her sister, LaCosta, told her Elvis was really checking her out when they went backstage in Vegas, and when he went to kiss her, she turned her face so he got her cheek, and he laughed because he wasnt used to that. He really extended himself to her. I feel so sorry for him. Sandra Zancan Las Vegas showgirl76. Her centerfold was photographed by Pompeo Posar and Phillip Dixon. 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Its interesting to me that Colonel Parker also had a fixation on small thingsminiature ponies, and midgets, among them. THE GENEROSITY OF ELVIS. He was sick, and he was lonely, and he was often out of control and miserable for a variety of reasons. How serious was Nancys relationship with Elvis? ", (Mark Feeney on the 'Elvis meets Nixon' meeting), "especially in the South, they talk about Elvis and Jesus in the same breath", "The image is one thing and the human being is anotherit's very hard to live up to an image", (Elvis Presley, Madison Square Garden press conference, 1972), "Elvis was a major hero of mine. 1987 LA times article no idea who Buck Presley is, but Mindi gets a negative mention: Jan 14, 1987 A few die-hards of the Elvis Presley Fan Club rubbed elbows with the She said she was Mindi Miller, Elvis last girlfriend and an actress. I will when I get ready. In her spare time, you can find her camping, hiking, and exploring new places. Go HERE for Part 3 of Alanna's fascinating interview - published early January 2010, coinciding with the release of Baby, Let's Play House in the USA. He had too many factors working against him, including his inability or unwillingness to get healthy in his body and his mind. Alanna, I think gave good honest answers. One kept him from realizing all he could be professionally, and the other prohibited him from being all he could be personally. So it turns out that Elvis was able to move past that hang-up with these women. Betty McMann - 1950-51 05. Joan Blackman Blue Hawaii / Kid Galahad 20. And Jackie got the distinct feeling that Gladys was interviewing her for the position of serious girlfriend/wife, once Jackie was of age. He never met the children of Susan or Barbara, I dont believe, but he did meet Anns little girl, and he was good with herhelped bathe her, and gave him a glimpse into normal family life. She also helps make history fun and accessible with her podcast The Digital Dust Podcast, which covers topics on everything from art history to grad school. Ann Pennington died of a stroke in New York City on November 4, 1971, aged 77. Reeca, too, was troubled by it once Elvis got really sick and she felt powerless to help him. What really has us all shook up is the messy love triangle that would unfold between Elvis, his then-girlfriend Priscilla, and his co-star Ann-Margret. Home movie footage of her "Snake Hips" dance at the 1939 World's Fair survive, but is more memorable for her enthusiasm than her star quality in her fading years. In December 1972, the two were reunited one last . EIN: Elvis and Sophia Loren. Flaming Star - the movie an in-depth look. Nash, whom Esquire magazine named one of the "Heavy 100 of Country Music," co-edited Will the Circle Be Unbroken: Country Music in America, published in 2006 by the Country Music Foundation and Dorling Kindersley. by drjohncarpenter Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:45 pm, Post Ann Pennington as a young woman who inherits a fortune. Pennington was born in Wilmington, Delaware, on December 23, 1893, and reputedly moved with her family to Camden, New Jersey, around 1900. With Elvis Presley, Arthur O'Connell, Anne Helm, Joanna Moore. Elvis: That's The Way It Is - The Complete Works. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. So many of them are still grieving for and about him. And find out even more about Mindi Miller here bookings and personal appearances. You see them in those famous Rudolf Paulini photographs, as on the cover of the book Private Elvis. by YDKM Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:26 am, Post Of Ann Pennington's official film debut in Susie Snowflake, The New York Times stated on June 26, 1916: Many of those who went to the Broadway yesterday for the first showing of Susie Snowflake will be inclined to endorse this particular nomination. Supposedly, Elvis even tried to get back together with Ann-Margret but she remained faithful to her husband. None of these romances lasted and Pennington never married. I was actually stupid enough to believe that having the same birthday as him actually meant something", "No-one, but no-one, is his equal, or ever will be. A girls life could be ruined if she were even rumoured to be loose.. Virginity was of great importance to both Elvis and Gladys, at least in a girl or woman Elvis would choose for a wife. There were many women who spoke of spending the night with him without having sex, and while it was romantic and exciting, neither of them needed it to be any more than that. He mentored her, yes, but he also made her over in an image that appealed to him, and that was a very complicated sexual puzzle. Ann Victoria Pennington (born June 3, 1950) is an American model and actress. ", which is still in print, and sang and danced "You're responsible" in "Tanned Legs" (for which movie she features in uncredited cartoon form on the posters and sheet music). He needed a union, or maybe I should say reunion, with his mother and his twin, and at first she was the perfect melding of those people, a woman-child. Some of her scenes from Tanned Legs still survive, but her role in The Great Ziegfeld, while listed in some inventories, was in fact cut before release. She was interested in karate (she performed all her own movie stunts), exploring spirituality and the Bible and so they had a lot in common. Jo Cathy Brownlee Footbal team hostess81. Ann Pennington was born on 3 June 1950 in Seattle, Washington, USA. Ann-Margret explained she noticed Elvis hadn't sent her any flowers for her latest performance in Las Vegas - something he always did without fail - so she knew something was wrong. Ann Pennington as a circus performer who is pawned off as the long-lost granddaughter of a wealthy judge. So he keenly felt that loss then, and certainly people I interviewed, such as Joyce Bova, talked about how Elvis believed he could find hidden messages from his brother in the religious teachings he read. by Joe Car Wed Jan 07, 2015 6:07 am, Post She was noted for a quick and witty personality, but was said to be shy off stage and easily embarrassed, and in her latter years was loath to discuss her early life. Did your research uncover much about their meeting? For example, it is often reported that Elvis preferred petite women to more voluptuous women; and disliked women with big feet. Plus: Elvis Radio Programs & More, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Pennington_(model), http://www.elvis-collectors.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=86352&p=1351787#p1351787, https://play.google.com/store/books/details?id=VGKCBAAAQBAJ&rdid=book-VGKCBAAAQBAJ&rdot=1&source=gbs_vpt_read&pcampaignid=books_booksearch_viewport. However Im not at liberty to say. Im very much looking forward to meeting the fans! It will be fun 3-hour cruise up the Mississippi River, with lots of Elvis music, drinks and snacks. EIN: Mary Ann Mobley mentions that she felt Elvis had a Madonna complex regarding Priscilla. Ive known Tanya for probably 20 years. She was Playboy magazine's Playmate of the Month for its March 1976 issue. I can't hardly wait for it to come out in January. by merry77 Wed Jan 07, 2015 5:51 pm, Post Elvis Presley girlfriend Mindi Miller finally talks about her time with Elvis from 1975 to 1977. But I was surprised at what my research showed up. Elvis Presley and Ann-Margret in a scene from the movie Viva Las Vegas. (Photo Credit: Bettmann / Getty Images). I wrote to her, but heard nothing back. Its a pretty cute story. Each had his own chair and they started interviewing me! The nurse sent the medication to her on Elviss request, as I understand it. Vicky Meyerlink Dated during Clamake66. Already with three critically acclaimed books about Elvis published and her fourth to be released next month, Alanna's name is one of the most recognisable in the increasingly crowded library of Elvis authors. Today in Elvis Presley Events August 18, Michael Jackson Thinks he is bigger than Elvis and the Beatles, Elvis inspects the new Music Gate April 22, 1957. Magdelen Morgan - In Tupelo 04. 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